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Tuesday, February 10, 2015

Businesses Struggle with Bitcoin Tax Questions


Accountant Prefers Payment in Bitcoin to Credit Cards

By Marc Dresner, Senior Editor, IIR

Until fairly recently, the only people who had to be concerned with the potential tax implications of using bitcoin were those buying, selling and “mining” the cryptocurrency—a niche population of highly tech savvy individuals.

But increasingly, companies are accepting bitcoin as payment and even paying their employees in it, which has opened an entirely new stream of prospective clients for accountants who can help them negotiate the persistent tax uncertainty surrounding cryptocurrencies.

Ryan Lazanis
“People and companies are having a difficult time navigating the tax environment since there is still so little guidance,” said Ryan Lazanis, CPA, CA and principal of Montreal-based Xen Accounting.

“Digital currency is a completely new concept. A lot of these new concepts are not applicable to existing tax law.”

“The regulatory environment is definitely tricky,” Lazanis added. “Digital currency, on the whole, is a completely new concept. And a lot of these new concepts are not applicable to existing tax law.”

In 2014, a high-profile string of major companies—Microsoft, Dell, Expedia, PayPal and even Time, Inc., among others—announced they would accept payment from customers in bitcoin.

And last month, Overstock.com, which had already been taking payment in bitcoin for a year, announced it would offer employees the option of being paid in the cryptocurrency.

To be precise, none of these companies accepts bitcoin payment directly; they accept it through intermediaries like Coinbase and BitPay, who convert it to cash for them—a pretty clear indication that there’s still not much faith in the currency, whose value plummeted more than 54% in 2014.

Bitcoin-related inquiries have tapered in tandem with the currency’s drop in value.

Moreover, Lazanis says the volume of bitcoin-related inquiries his firm receives has tapered in tandem with the currency’s decline in value.

“[Bitcoin queries] come in waves. Back when Bitcoin prices were spiking, we were getting a ton of inquiries,” Lazanis told On Payments in a podcast interview.

Instability will doubtless continue to dog cryptocurrency adoption among businesses, but it may be that smaller companies realize the benefits and move the needle first.

Lazanis says that his firm enthusiastically accepts bitcoin because of its advantages over credit cards.

“We prefer to be paid in bitcoin over credit cards.”

“We prefer to be paid in bitcoin over credit cards,” Lazanis said.

“For most small businesses there are a few percentage points and fees attached to credit card payments that actually make a big impact at the end of the year,” he explained, “and some credit card gateways take up to seven business days to put that money in your bank.”

“With bitcoin there are zero fees and you receive that money immediately,” he added.

Lazanis, whose clients tend toward techier types, reports that Xen Accounting continues to receive inquiries from both tech-forward and more traditional companies that want to open themselves up to new markets.

These markets may need a nudge…

In some economies in the less developed world with fewer entrenched interests and infrastructure impediments, digital currency markets are rapidly growing.

But in the First World, these markets may need a nudge.

(Editor’s note: For more on the impact of digital currency in emerging markets, check out episode four of On Payments.)

Patrick Byrne
Indeed, one of bitcoin’s most outspoken corporate proponents, Overstock.com CEO Patrick Byrne—who recently had a bitcoin ATM installed in the company’s Salt Lake City headquarters—conceded as much when the company announced it would offer employees the option to be paid in bitcoin.

“Moving cryptocurrencies out of the realm of geeks and into the realm of the rest of us requires making changes.” 

– Patrick Byrne, CEO, Overstock.com

“Moving cryptocurrencies out of the realm of geeks and into the realm of the rest of us requires making changes at all levels of the financial ecosystem,” Byrne said in a press release.

Come April, those employees who take Byrne up on his offer will likely need some tax advice from people like Ryan Lazanis…

In this podcast for On Payments—the All Payments Expo (APEX) interview series—Ryan Lazanis discusses the potential tax implications around using cryptocurrencies and offers tips for individuals and companies interested in expanding into digital currency payments.


Editor’s note: Ryan Lazanis will be a featured speaker at APEX 2015—the All Payments Expo—taking place February 23-25 in Las Vegas.


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ABOUT THE AUTHOR / INTERVIEWER
Marc Dresner is IIR USA’s sr. editor and special communication project lead. He is the former executive editor of Research Business Report, a confidential newsletter for the market and consumer research industry. He may be reached at mdresner@iirusa.com. Follow him @mdrezz.



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Tuesday, July 29, 2014

APEX Digital Currency Partnerships Agenda Released!

APEX Digital Currency Partnerships addresses how cryptocurrency can be integrated, utilized and valued by mainstream banks, payments, nonprofit and investing firms.



 


 Highlights include:

1. More than 50+ speakers, 20+ sessions in a streamlined schedule, and one monster keynote from Patrick Byrne, Chairman of Overstock.com

2. Insights into what you should be learning from the VC Activity in crypto, the development of less-clunky user experiences, the realities of compliance and regulation and much MORE!

3. Eight hours of built-in networking, including two attendee parties, a Women's-Only Lunch and MORE!

4. Crypto Awards celebrating industry achievements after a blockbuster year of innovation, press coverage and exposure. Nominations are open until July 31st for 6 award categories. Enter now.

5. Meet-Up Collision: The ultimate mash-up of the nation's best crypto meetups, and it's only at APEX.  Contact Krystin Bruan, at kbruan@iirusa.com to get involved.

DOWNLOAD the Agenda by Clicking Here!

See you in San Francisco!



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Tuesday, May 13, 2014

Reddit AMA with Patrick Byrne, CEO, Overstock.com & APEX: Digital Currency Partnerships Keynote Speaker

Introducing APEX: Digital Currency Partnerships, September 8-9 in San Francisco, CA. Our mission is to bring digital currency to the forefront of financial services. At APEX: Digital Currency Partnerships, you'll engage in new conversation, bridging Bitcoin philosophy and business development. We'll cover digital currencies as transactional currency, investment vehicles, protocol platforms and the underpinning of financial services for mainstream and underserved consumers.

The keynote address at APEX: Digital Currency Partnerships will be given by Patrick Byrne, CEO, Overstock.com. Mr. Byrne recently sat down are did a Reddit; Ask Me Anything (AMA). Below are a few answers that dive into digital currency and topics we will be covering in Septmeber

Register by Friday, June 6th to lock in the early bird rates!



What would you say to other CEOs and decision makers who are hesitant to utilize bitcoin?

It depends upon what their hesitancy is...There are business reasons to do it: save on transaction fees, eliminate fraud and chargebacks, etc. There may be business reasons not to do it as well, such as the risk of volatility (but this concern can be obviated by trading out of Bitcoin immediately upon receipt, a service that the firms like Bitpay, Coinapult, and Coinbase all offer, I believe). But if they are pro-freedom, they should want to get behind it on principle alone. Ghandi said, "Be the change you wish to see in the world."


Clearly bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies have the potential to change how our world does money for the better. What made you such a strong believer in bitcoin, and how would you spread this knowledge to other CEOs like yourself?

I became a strong believer in several ways.

1) As a grad student at Stanford I studied computation thory, which underlies public key encryption, and so when cryptocurrencies came along it was not as magical-sounding to me as it might have been.

2) I am a proponent of the Austrian School of Economics, which, in general, eschews fiat currency in favor of a gold standard. The goal is not really the gold standard, however: the goal is to have a form of money that is intrinsically limited. Bitcoin et. al. accomplishes that.

In addition, cryptocurrencies are SpaceCash (a word I think I just made up) that can be beamed across the galaxy! (Henceforth in my answers I will use "SpaceCash" top refer to all cryptocurrencies.)


To read more from Mr. Byrne's Reddit AMA, click here.

And to hear him speak at APEX: Digital Currency Partnerships. Make sure you book your ticket today!

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